Deoxys
Player Sixteen
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Post by Deoxys on Mar 10, 2019 16:13:30 GMT
Let's look at this from a different angle, why would each of you vote for your other competitors? Like I'm not asking which of the other two you would vote for if you had to be a juror, I'm asking why would you vote for them. Tell me positives about their games that maybe haven't been highlighted so much. A good competitor has a good idea of what they're up against, and I want you to show me that you do.
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I would vote for Tapu because she played a very strong UTR game. She was never the one to have to make a decision which allowed her to avoid getting either marked as a target or have someone feel burned by her on the jury. She may not have had as much sway over the course of the game as Regi or I did, but by managing to do such a great job socially and embracing the goat moniker that she was labelled with in the burnbook challenge, she actually did ensure that she'd be here at the end just as much as I did by trying to manueuvre my way here. Tapu is a genuinely wonderful and amazing person - and I do think that matters - who also played a strong UTR game of Survivor. And that's why I would vote for her.
I would vote for Regi because he played a very strong strategic game. He was someone who lost a lot of allies and potential options through no fault of his own (between the Valors who went out at the swap, Volc being idoled out and Mesprit having to leave the game) which left him in a position to have to get creative to ensure his survival and he did just that. He threw a challenge at the swap despite being in a 2-3 minority tribe-wise because he had built a strong enough bond with Meltan to know that a Mystic would go out, he made a move on Uxie in order to remove an idol and someone that Meltan obviously had a good connection with (based on how Meltan knew about the idol), then immediately afterwards went right to the people he had been working against to throw my ass under the bus once he realized I was playing both sides. He played a very cunning and cutthroat strategic game of Survivor. And that's why I would vote for him.
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Regigigas
Player Eight
Chewing bubblegum
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Post by Regigigas on Mar 10, 2019 16:26:33 GMT
thanks deoxys, you sell my game better then I do.
I think deoxys played a really interesting mix of UTR and strategic game because he started with all the connections already in place. He began on mystic and connected with all those people and used that really well later because he was a duo with poipole which I didn't even figure out until like F6, and also had better awareness of how things were going on because of it. Something meltan said about him also rings true - he managed to flip back and forth in a way that it made it feel like he was always on your side but never really hurt too much when he wasn't. Also based on the way F8 went down, he was a more trusted double agent then me because I was targeted over him. I think he played a more polished version of my game and I look up to that.
I probably wouldn't vote for tapu coming into this because I don't really give much credit to social play alone. But she successfully made it to the end by following the right people. Also I liked the way she tone shifted FTC yesterday. That makes up for her (lack of?) game in my eyes and maybe I would vote for her because of that.
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Post by Tapu Lele on Mar 10, 2019 23:39:46 GMT
@lele: I have to say of the finalists you have been handling yourself with the most grace and the most like a well-rounded person, and it's refreshing. That being said, are you just sitting back and avoiding the negativity as a way to social game this FTC, or are you less passionate about your game and winning it? I've tried to answer this three times and Accidentally my post all 3 times. I will answer this question this time. >:c It would be fairer to say the former before the latter. But also kind of neither? I don't feel disconnected from the negativity. I totally understand the grievances Reggie and Deo have with each other, I just think it's more healthy for them to communicate with each other and the jurors. I don't think that me getting involved is capable of accomplishing a whole lot except for -- frankly -- attempting to undermine or shit on one party or the other, and that's not something that appeals to me at all. In the end of the day, Deo and Regi have played substantially different games but they are both in here selling the merits of their long term strategic game. The fact they're both standing on similar but different platforms lends itself to conflict, at least to a limited extent. I can understand why you might wonder if my lack of engagement comes from having less passion about my game, and my chances to win, but I don't think that's the case. It's more that I don't feel I have a lot to add to this conflict. I guess it's one of those "If you don't have anything nice to say keep your egg-dwelling-humanoid-blob talking hole shut" things. So, a sceptical person would definitely say I'm social gaming this FTC by avoiding the negativity. From a self-defending perspective I would say it's detrimental to the ~energy~ of the FTC for me to try and weigh in on it. I *think* I can slowly see Regi and Deo form a kind of acceptance and greater tolerance for each other. Just stating for the record: if I felt either party was being outright unfair or there were untruths rather than perspectives flying around, I would very likely jump in.
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Hoopa
Player Thirteen
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Post by Hoopa on Mar 11, 2019 0:44:11 GMT
Alright thanks guys. I would appreciate if you do finish answering the questions I've asked here that you've missed but it's totally fine if you don't have the time and would rather focus on your speeches.
Can't wait for this game to be done and we can chat like normal people again <3
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Post by Tapu Lele on Mar 11, 2019 0:46:40 GMT
I don't think I've missed anything have i hold on lemme check
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Post by Tapu Lele on Mar 11, 2019 0:53:09 GMT
@deo/Regi: No worries, you have time, and I would much rather you give me a properly thought out response than half-ass it, that is the point of the questions @lele: Okay, that's all very fair, and kind of what I thought was actually the case more or less. I know you've said it in a lot of places already, but I really need you to sell me on you having agency in you being here. Because it really doesn't seem like you did. What were choices you made? Were there things you said to certain people in certain rounds to keep them on your good side or view you as less of a threat or something? Was there anything that was planned in advance, or are you a reactionary player that has a loose framework and adapts to what is put in front of you in a specific round? It is okay if the second is your answer, I just want you to prove it, bring out those receipts dollface, show me the work you've put in. I know you're a passionate person who gives their all, but I need you to point me where to look since our interactions wouldn't have that. OH THIS I am so sorry, I think my brain merged this and Coba's questions about agency and Poipole's questions into one melting pot of "goddamnit Tapu Lele show them you're not a scrub" I have spoken about my agency a bit across those threads, and particularly the plays which I felt were more strategically dominant on my part; by your own admission, my plays around your TC may not hold a whole lot of value. I've also been speaking in Poi's thread about the way I perceived the possible eliminations leading up to each TC and the way I feel I positioned endgame best for myself. While we have time: what would you like to supplement this?
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Hoopa
Player Thirteen
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Post by Hoopa on Mar 11, 2019 0:56:25 GMT
Yeah no, you've done good answering those things in other places, you're fine. <3
I think you've all fought hella hard here, so I wish you all luck.
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Post by Tapu Lele on Mar 11, 2019 1:02:18 GMT
Thank you very much. ♥ May the best 'mon win. I am very excited for the reveal.
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Deoxys
Player Sixteen
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Post by Deoxys on Mar 11, 2019 1:05:33 GMT
@ All: From what I can see this FTC is a toss up of being Regi's and Deo's to lose, and Lele just has to convince people of what she's done, this could go any way. I know I went in kind of harsh here, but I want the person I vote for to be the kind of winner who reflects what made this game so wonderful. So I need you all to do your damnedest to convince me. Why do you represent the best of what this particular game, not survivor as a whole or your specific experiences and playstyles, has to offer? I don't want you to tear down each other's games, I'm not the kind of juror who that works with. I want you to sell what you have to offer and have it stand on its own merits.
This game was pitched and sold as a FvF concept, which is something that is super cool to see in MS Survivor. You're the MS LSG Historian if I recall so I'm sure you know if something like this has been done before but I sure am not familiar with anything like it so I thought it was cool. I think I perfectly represent the best of what this very game in particular has to offer because I think I am at the very centre of the Venn Diagram between Newbs and Veterans. I came into this game having had no real success in any prior games, and in a tribe surrounded by very accomplished and strong Survivor players. Though I did not have a dedicated trainer assigned to me, I soaked in the knowledge and learned from the wealth of experience that the Mystic tribe had to offer.
You said earlier that you were having trouble reconciling the 3 Deos you knew in this game. I'd say that those three perceptions of me marked three different stages of the game and the way I blurred the line between Fan and Favourite in this game. At the start on the Mystic 1.0 and 2.0 tribes, I played very conservatively and passively, focussed on being likable and nice while still feeling a bit in over my head and not strategically capable or wanting to risk sticking my neck out at all to try and avoid another early loss. I instead allowed myself to learn as much as I can from others, watch what worked and what didn't, and build good relationships with everyone on the two Mystic tribes I was on that would hopefully help me moving forward. At the merge, I emerged from my shell and tried to start playing a strategic game. I thought I had figured it all out, would be able to maneuvre my way through the game by playing one side against the other while still being the same likable Deo from the early game, and managed to get myself into a very strong position: I betrayed people when I thought I needed to, made deals when I thought I needed to, and won immunity at two key points when I thought I needed it most. I thought I had managed to learn from others and put all the pieces together. FTC was a huge reality check for me as I quickly received feedback from a number of jurors that I very much did not have everything figured out and that I still have a done to learn about both Survivor and myself as a person. Much like early in the game when I was surprised and caught off-guard by the fact my name was on the block to go home, I've taken the time to absorb everything I've been told and try to grow and learn from this. Sort of a weird but I guess fitting full circle for me, from the bottom at first to climbing to what I thought was the top only to find out it was but a plateau and there's so much more to climb ahead of me. Hopefully I can continue to grow and use this feedback to do better in future games and also in everyday life where I can tend to struggle socially.
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Deoxys
Player Sixteen
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Post by Deoxys on Mar 11, 2019 1:06:15 GMT
Going to try and do the GIF question but may run into the deadline as it will require quite a bit of searching and trying to figure out the right GIF for everyone. Wish I had seen it yesterday, sorry!
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Hoopa
Player Thirteen
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Post by Hoopa on Mar 11, 2019 1:16:34 GMT
THANK YOU FOR SOMEBODY DOING THE GIF QUESTION
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Deoxys
Player Sixteen
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Post by Deoxys on Mar 11, 2019 1:40:59 GMT
Decided to have some fun with this, and also make it easier on myself to google the gifs by using something I (and hopefully others) are familiar with. I hope no one takes offense to any of these, as it's meant in good fun and was done quickly before deadline 11-Volcanion 10-Mesprit 9-Uxie 8-Cobalion 7-Meltan 6-Poipole 5-Hoopa 4-Celebi (Hard to tell through the paint, but Rob C) Deo Regi (Note: There's a stunning lack of Heidik gifs online) Tapu
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Hoopa
Player Thirteen
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Post by Hoopa on Mar 11, 2019 1:47:50 GMT
Thank you for answering the most important question this entire FTC, Deo.
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Post by Tapu Lele on Mar 11, 2019 1:51:16 GMT
Deo, you are brilliant. I can't talk for anyone else but mine made me grin. <3
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