Regigigas
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Post by Regigigas on Feb 4, 2019 11:52:52 GMT
So im guessing it's confirmed uhh
I just really want to post this NOW and not 2 hrs to deadline. I'll be back in the evening, I work during the day. Here's some stuff to get started, so just please start making some crazy combos and posting them here and consider this my contribution as I'm going to on mobile answering on and off PMs for most of today until near DL.
EITHER:
220 313
Pikachu + body of plusle / minle could be a funny combo since it's like wtf is missing
Confusing FACES:
290 nincanda 305 lairion 343 baltoy 366 clampearl 369 relicanth 413 wormadam 421 --- cherrim
Confusing bodies:
266/268 for confusing body bases might trip them up. since they aren't allowed to look it up and these two fail the sihilloute test because of each other. use exactly ONE of these for maximum pain
274 nuzleaf
351 castform 422/423 shellos/gastrodon 396 starly
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Volcanion
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 12:18:49 GMT
So I realized that the way the Fusion works is it takes the face of the first pokemon and the body of the second pokemon. This means, to confuse our opponent--it's probably ideal to take a famous pokemon--but use it's lesser popular evolution.
So instead of using Pikachu's face, you use Pichu's face. Or instead of using Mudkip's face, you use Marshtomp's face. Their face are annoyingly similiar. I will try to investigate all possible fusion later.
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Regigigas
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Post by Regigigas on Feb 4, 2019 12:34:35 GMT
So I realized that the way the Fusion works is it takes the face of the first pokemon and the body of the second pokemon. This means, to confuse our opponent--it's probably ideal to take a famous pokemon--but use it's lesser popular evolution. So instead of using Pikachu's face, you use Pichu's face. Or instead of using Mudkip's face, you use Marshtomp's face. Their face are annoyingly similiar. I will try to investigate all possible fusion later. Plusle and minun are no good for faces. They look like pikachu but have pluses and minuses on their faces. It would be good to investigate similar faces in evolution lines, but any research I did there turned out kind of dry- the aagron line was too distinct and a few others near the 350 range.
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Volcanion
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 12:40:14 GMT
Confusing evolution's face
(Generation 1 and Generation 2) Pikachu / Pichu Mudkip / Marshtomp Buizel / Foatzel Magnemite / Magneton Bulbasaur / Ivysaur Clefairy / Clefable Diglet / Dugtrio Slowpoke / Slowbro Doduo / Dodrio Cyndaquil / Quilava Natu / Xatu Aipom / Ambipom
(Generation 3 - 5 comes after I go home)
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 12:42:07 GMT
I noticed that pokemon that evolves from single faces to multi faces like magnemite are virtually undistinguishable.
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Regigigas
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Post by Regigigas on Feb 4, 2019 12:46:12 GMT
This is good stuff. Ideally we get a pokemon that is sort of rare and also has a hard to distinguish evolution face. Natu xatu could be good if they forget the name or exactly where they were in the pokedex. Since the only resource phase2 has is the mixer itself.
Bonus points: two pokemon from the same evolutionary line but in different generations to make it an even bigger pain to find. Like igglybuff and jiggs, but more similar.
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Buzzwole
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Post by Buzzwole on Feb 4, 2019 13:00:22 GMT
They use open cherrim, not closed cherrim. Which might make its body harder but it's face way easier
I like the quilfish and kricketot models cause the seem to hide some of the faces pretty well. There's a few that have weird color schemes too
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Buzzwole
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Post by Buzzwole on Feb 4, 2019 13:15:07 GMT
Qwilfish body/cleffa seems to have a confusing color scheme.
Tangela head on castform hides literally every part of castform's body, so I feel like that's good. Same thing with Aron''s body. I think it might be worth researching how many big heads just erase the body
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Buzzwole
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Post by Buzzwole on Feb 4, 2019 13:20:00 GMT
Clamperl on qwilfish seems tough, feel free to check any thing I say and tell me it's dumb
Electivire's head does OK on aron.
Honchokrow on skiploom, ymmv.
Tangela also covers voltorb.
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Lugia
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Post by Lugia on Feb 4, 2019 14:00:23 GMT
Qwilfish body/cleffa seems to have a confusing color scheme. Tangela head on castform hides literally every part of castform's body, so I feel like that's good. Same thing with Aron''s body. I think it might be worth researching how many big heads just erase the body This seems like the optimal strategy. If there are enough small pokemon that we can cover entirely, they'd have to guess at the second half for all of them. I bet diglet, dugtrio are good ones to check for the body.
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Volcanion
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 14:04:28 GMT
I can't really tell any addition similiar face among evolution line. It seems the newer the generation, the more creative the artist are drawing.
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 14:07:36 GMT
Also, Porygon's blocky body makes their face rather obscure.
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 14:14:29 GMT
Also I think Exeggcute's body is ideal to use. Like, it's obvious that it's the body of Exeggcute, but Exeggcute's body makes the pokemon's face obscure as long as there is nothing distinctive.
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Lugia
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Post by Lugia on Feb 4, 2019 14:18:40 GMT
Be sure to combine different generation pokemon. Most people know them by playing the games, and if someone hasn't played every game you want them to have as hard a time a possible of recognizing the pokemon.
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Volcanion
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 14:43:32 GMT
Here's my combination:
1. Blissey + Muk 2. Miltank + Eggsecute 3. Giratina + Tropius 4. Dodrio + Wrumple 5. Victini + Porygon 6. Lotad + Squirtle 7. Arceus + Arceking 8. Masquerain + Gastly 9. Xatu + Bibarel 10. Magneton + Hippopotas
Review please?
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Regigigas
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Post by Regigigas on Feb 4, 2019 17:02:38 GMT
On lunch break. Very Good stuff so far. Will review when I get home.
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Volcanion
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 17:27:02 GMT
It's 1 : 26 here. I will submit entries just in case I collected way too many Zs and missed the deadline.
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 17:28:43 GMT
Here's my combination: 1. Blissey + Muk 2. Miltank + Eggsecute 3. Giratina + Tropius 4. Dodrio + Wrumple 5. Victini + Porygon 6. Lotad + Squirtle 7. Arceus + Arceking 8. Masquerain + Gastly 9. Xatu + Bibarel 10. Magneton + Hippopotas Review please? At host, this is my combo for right now.
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Regigigas
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Post by Regigigas on Feb 4, 2019 17:30:18 GMT
Here's my combination: 1. Blissey + Muk 2. Miltank + Eggsecute 3. Giratina + Tropius 4. Dodrio + Wrumple 5. Victini + Porygon 6. Lotad + Squirtle 7. Arceus + Arceking 8. Masquerain + Gastly 9. Xatu + Bibarel 10. Magneton + Hippopotas Review please? At host, this is my combo for right now. Wait I haven't reviewed it yet. And I'm on mobile I can't see the timer. Its same as last time right? 5 PM PST? don't submit yet. Did you use the big head trick on anyone?
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Regigigas
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Post by Regigigas on Feb 4, 2019 17:32:44 GMT
Yeah I will be around at DL so don't worry about missing a submission.
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Volcanion
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Post by Volcanion on Feb 4, 2019 17:42:15 GMT
I assume I can change my answer so it's not final answer.
I don't think I used the big head trick on anyone because I couldn't find one that is suitable.
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Buzzwole
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Post by Buzzwole on Feb 4, 2019 18:07:47 GMT
shit posted wrong one, i'll copy past to here,
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Buzzwole
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Post by Buzzwole on Feb 4, 2019 18:08:44 GMT
those are a couple iffy ones. Not sure if we can just use tangela multiple times.
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Post by Cynthia on Feb 4, 2019 18:14:51 GMT
To clarify because we didn't put that in the rules, one person can only use each pokemon once in their set of 10 melded pokemon. If you want to repeat Pokemon between sets that's fine.
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Regigigas
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Post by Regigigas on Feb 4, 2019 18:14:51 GMT
those are a couple iffy ones. Not sure if we can just use tangela multiple times. If tangela covers 100% of the body and looks totally identical, I say we should. If there are slight differences, it would be easy for them to just pick tangela and iterate over small pokemon in the editor until the pixels match.
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