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Post by Wallace on Feb 9, 2019 3:21:26 GMT
Condolences my dude, in most tribes there's no way this would happen <3.
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 9, 2019 3:25:42 GMT
Well that was a disaster. I'll be sure to clarify some shit after I'm done locking stuff up.
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 9, 2019 4:18:12 GMT
Okay...so I'm just going to post the message(s) That started it all: First what I sent Artie (chronologically first I think but double check the timestamp:   And now Meltan:     So really...All i think I really did was report accurate info, why well...this actually wasn't my wagon, I mean...technically it might be but I was only motivated to do it because of this:  So like, yeah it was not like "Sorry I've been silent on this... spent the last hour wrestling with myself on whether to reply or not but I'm not going to be someone's pawn I don't care if this gets me sent home Solgaleo told me that it's going to be me vs you and that I need to push you or I'm going home he also told me that I couldn't tell anyone he told me that or he'd get me sent home instead he's probably got the power to do that Hoopa and Celebi were completely against him being voted out last round and nobody was willing to go against them because they're such social powerhouses if they're still onside with him here then by doing this I probably send myself home but that isn't how I want to play this game and it's not who I want to play this game with do you have any ideas on how this could be changed up?" Like I certainly was not as threatening as that PM applied... but like I guess I was bad at explain that. So yeah...I guess what I should have said is that I was just trying to get the result that Poi had suggested and to be honest, if you've seen my confessional, I wanted to kill Artie because I wanted to give Meltan another chance. So uh...DON'T GIVE PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR YOU SECOND CHANCES. But like...any thoughts... |
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Post by Litwick on Feb 9, 2019 4:19:28 GMT
hi! welcome to lavender town! i'm your tour guide.
how do you like this place? any suggestions on how to improve it?
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 9, 2019 4:19:40 GMT
But like yeah...I wanted to be heartful and throw people a bone and had it worked I felt I would have gained Meltan's trust, I should have expected this outcome though but like...wow.
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 9, 2019 4:20:11 GMT
I mean to be honest I'd rather leave Lavender town and like...be back in the game. No redemple temple is sad but well expected.
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 9, 2019 4:27:04 GMT
Also the stupidest thing is EVERYTHING I TOLD THEM WAS THE TRUTH. As far as anyone was telling me.....it was probably between them and who the fuck knows what would happen. Like what the fuck. And I was gonna kill Artie, if Meltan had just been quiet it would have happened I feel, UGH.
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 9, 2019 4:27:58 GMT
But please Specs give feedback because I'm obviously biased.
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 9, 2019 4:38:51 GMT
Though...I really just should have known better. Hell I should have just not posted today.
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 9, 2019 4:46:17 GMT
OR I could have done the following. Actually gone whole hog with it, tell Meltan/Artie you guys are on the bottom, here's why. I could just stick around but instead let's do something fun like...kill Coba.
Regardless, point is, half measures are bad.
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Post by Delphox on Feb 9, 2019 4:49:57 GMT
I know for me, I would only ever bring up that a person is being targeted if I had any merit in wanting them to stay. Because mentioning to the target that they're a possible target will cause them to scramble... and you only want people to scramble if them staying would pretty much benefit you. If you really thought Meltan staying would have benefited your game then I guess you did what you should have. But I mean... how much can we reveal to you guys here? Meltan did play a role in the push on you last round so... feels like you kinda gave the guy who wanted to stab you in the back the knife to do it. (I hope that was okay to say.)
To be completely and brutally honest, telling the truth to anyone but your core allies pre-jury really makes no sense hun.
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Post by Wallace on Feb 9, 2019 5:10:28 GMT
He has spec access so you can say whatever sure.
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Post by Litwick on Feb 9, 2019 5:26:04 GMT
I mean to be honest I'd rather leave Lavender town and like...be back in the game. No redemple temple is sad but well expected. too bad! you're stuck here forever, so you might want to get used to it. |
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 10, 2019 3:02:12 GMT
So like reading the post from Meltan's confessional (the discord convo) I have a few things to clarify/other thoughts.
1. No I did not lie to Meltan about it being Him or Arti. Literally the only thing I had heard up to that point was from Poi that it was likely going to be one of Meltan/Arti/Deox and that Deox was off the table. Everyone else I talked to...seemed to agree with that exact sentiment so I went with it. Hell everything after that was accurate, up to it seeming to lean arti from my persepctive.
2. It was probably stupid to tell Arti as well but like...what else do you do in that situation. Like Arti was my intended target...was I supposed to...not tell him anything. As far as I knew those two were the main candidates anyone else was suggesting. I guess I should have not talked but I instead told him the one thing I knew.
3. Of course I didn't want anyone to know that it was me? I didn't want Meltan to take the fucking heat for it, I just didn't want to be the one who told Meltan he was on the bottom. The plan was to slowly guide people (moslty, Hoopa+Poi+Celebi) on Arti as the hours closed down, have Meltan do whatever the fuck he wanted to do (I really didn't care whether he pushed or not) and then have Arti die and have Coba go the next round working with Meltan and Cel/Hoopa/Poi.
4. I'm really kind of pissed that he didn't talk to me (where I would have probably come clean and said "If you don't want to push it I will" since I was planning to do that near the end anyway) and instead just tried to kill me considering I was actually trying to save him, but I get what the idea was going to be. Like by the time he decided to explain to Arti, I was already sunk because I couldn't really say the full truth without also incriminating a bunch of other people (mostly Poi) and getting them pissed at me so yeah.
5. In hindsight I probably just should have been like "I wanted to save Meltan and sent that to Arti because I didn't know what else to say". Then maybe I could kill Artie and patch shit up with Meltan (since I was giving more info to them than Arti).
Still the entire idea was hedgy at best and I should have just...done nothing with either of them. Welp. I played pretty poorly this game but fortunately I'm kind of fine with a break from all this stuff. And if I ever do play again I'll try to stick more to my gundham playbook than my falcon one.
And also no Meltan (who much like they were pretty sure who I was I'm pretty sure who they were), I'm not pissed at you but like...I don't think that was the right move. But it may still pay off for you and like you weren't connecting with the same people I was so....we'll see.
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Post by Steven on Feb 10, 2019 3:44:32 GMT
I guess I'd say the better move would have been to emphasize to Meltan that you want to save him and send Articuno home, and make him feel like you are someone who would be a more useful ally
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Post by Solgaleo on Feb 10, 2019 3:46:45 GMT
Yeah...I'd agree. I somehow run in to trouble a lot with me being able to read everyone else's intentions perfectly well...and then forgetting that mine are usually obscured.
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