Victini
Player Nine
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Post by Victini on Feb 15, 2019 4:41:25 GMT
While playing the challenge I told myself I'd be pretty content if I could manage a 30k score, so I'm pretty happy about getting over 40k. It's really difficult staying alive after like the 10k mark. I really hope the other tribes don't end up being like super beasts or something, b/c a TC right now would be pretty devastating, especially after coming out of our last one. I don't really know who'd I vote out between Cobalion and Poipole -- they both have their own charms and drawbacks, and having to vote either of them out would be really heartbreaking.
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Post by Wattson on Feb 15, 2019 7:46:24 GMT
So after reading everything that happened lateish last round what and who do you believe/trust the most?
Who is your #1, do they think you're their #1?
Do you feel like you appeared way too scattered to people? If yes, do you believe anybody has taken issue with that?
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 15, 2019 13:38:48 GMT
I feel I can trust everyone on this tribe to some extent, actually. Everyone was really up front with the conversations they had with Lugia and trying to make sense of all this chaos. My #1 in this tribe though would 100% be Uxie, and I'd be surprised if he didn't feel the same way. He helped talked me through a lot of the drama and come to the conclusion that Lugia was calling all this ruckus. I don't think I came across as scattered -- I only really told Uxie that I was planning on voting Cobalion, but even that didn't last long. To everyone else it was basically me saying "did you say X to Lugia" and them being "uhhhh no actually Y happened" and then coming to the conclusion that Lugia's playing tricks on everyone. If anything I'd say people might see me as gullible, maybe easy to manipulate, but that also might just be me. Apparently this TC was even worse that the one that happened in Mystic, which is really saying something, so in the end I think the most everyone got out of it was that Lugia is a backstabber and him going would help us be a lot more unified as a tribe.
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 16, 2019 2:02:02 GMT
Ffs, Instinct. Why do y'all have to be sooo good?
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Victini
Player Nine
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Post by Victini on Feb 16, 2019 2:03:16 GMT
4th place overall isn't too shabby, though.
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Post by Giratina on Feb 16, 2019 2:52:43 GMT
*BIG LOUD GROWL* IM A NEW SPEC TELL ME WHY I SHOULD ROOT FOR YOU!
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Victini
Player Nine
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Post by Victini on Feb 16, 2019 3:41:59 GMT
Well, because I'm the Victory Pokemon of course! What better Pokemon to root for than the embodiment of victory? I'm destined to win!
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Post by Giratina on Feb 16, 2019 3:44:10 GMT
FAIR POINT BUT I SUPER SRS AND WANTS TO KNOW WHAT ARE YOU ARE DOING TO TRY TO WIN *BELLOWS LOUDLY FOR ALL THE FIREFLIES TO SEE*
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 16, 2019 4:11:30 GMT
Alright then. Guess I'll give a more serious response!
I've been having a pretty tight social game so far and I believe I'll be in a good position moving into the merge. Me and Uxie are in a power position where we can basically take either of Cob/Poi with us to the merge, provided we won't have another TC in Valor. From there it should be simple enough forming a solid alliance between me, Uxie, Regi, and Cob/Poi going. I also anticipate myself forming good connections among some of the other Mystics as well since I've been doing a fairly good job so far when it comes to making allies. I consider myself likeable enough, but I don't anticipate my social game being so strong as to immediately paint me as a threat. When the merge comes (provided I make it that far, which is fairly likely at this point), I anticipate myself doing moderately well in challenges and working in the background with strong, smaller alliances instead of putting myself forward too much. I don't have a super solid game plan as of yet, but that's just a rough outline of my goals going into early merge and how I'd potentially get to the finish line.
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Post by Giratina on Feb 16, 2019 4:16:10 GMT
THANK YOU FOR THE REASONINGS. I CAN NOW BETTER ASSESS YOU FOR THE ROOTING. *SCREAMS TO SHOW ROOTING* CARRY ON MY WAYWARD VICTINI!!!
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Victini
Player Nine
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Post by Victini on Feb 16, 2019 4:21:49 GMT
<3. Thanks for the support, Giratina!
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Post by Wattson on Feb 16, 2019 10:18:40 GMT
Good luck with your decision today.
From my POV looks like you might be at a possible divisive point.
What are the chances of a 2-2 vote split?
Are you willing to go to rocks for Uxie? Are they willing to go to rocks for you?
What's the absolute best/worst results for you and how can you achieve or avoid them?
Mostly you keep doing you and working towards living another day.
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 16, 2019 15:38:18 GMT
I don't think a 2-2 split would be very likely. I've already talked to Cobalion and while he would be upset with voting out Poipole -- as will I, admittedly -- it sounds like he'd be fine voting him out in the end. I haven't talked to Poipole about the possibility of voting out Cobalion but I feel he'd be OK with that as well. However, I would have to end up blindsiding one of them, and if they talk to each other and come clean about voting each other out there's a possibility they could turn against me, but worse come to worse I highly doubt they'd get Uxie's vote, and I know I'm not willing to vote out Uxie. I would 100% risk going to rocks for Uxie in the hopes that one of Cob/Poi would flip if it ever came down to that, and I hope Uxie would be willing to do the same, but frankly I don't anticipate getting to that point. I still haven't fully decided which of Cobalion and Poipole I want to keep around, and hopefully talking with Uxie would make it easier for me to come to that decision.
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 16, 2019 16:49:33 GMT
Alright, so I'm just going to ramble on about my thought process and hopefully end up with something cohesive.
So with Poipole, it's like at first I didn't feel a very strong connection to them but after talking to them a bit I've grown to like them quite a bit. They were also super helpful and understanding through all the Lugia drama. They seem like a really enjoying and down to earth person, and while I don't have the best connections with them I really do like them a lot.
Cobalion... he just seems eager to please, for the most part. He's always throwing compliments at me and hyping me up, and there's a lot of times where he comes off as super desperate. But he is very honest and truthful -- he was just as helpful as helpful as Poipole when dealing with the whole Lugia drama, and I don't think he was lying about anything. He was also super-upfront about Lugia's plan to vote out Uxie, which I appreciate. But at the same time, it seems like he always sees himself at the bottom and is almost paranoid about being the next voted out when he really shouldn't be... expect during this TC, I guess. He's also admitted he doesn't have that much experience with Survivor and that he usually gets booted early, which doesn't seem too far off base, honestly. He doesn't come off as genuine as Poipole, and it feels like he has an agenda behind him, but I'm wondering whether that agenda is just "make it as far in the game as possible". He's spoken highly of me to Poipole, which I honestly believe, and I think there's a good chance he'd stay loyal to be for a while. He doesn't sound like this mastermind manipulator who'd do anything to make it to the merge and throw me to the wayside -- he just feels like a lost puppy who'd be grateful for anyone who takes him under his wing. But I don't know his true intentions, and he makes it very obvious he has intentions, and whether those intentions are good/bad for my game it does worry me a bit.
I also have to consider Uxie's position too, and right now he's leaning towards voting out Cobalion, though it doesn't seem like that strong of a pull. I'd hate to put both of our games in jeopardy if I steer us in the wrong direction, and I feel keeping Poipole would be the safest play overall. But I can see them getting along well with everyone, and if it is just a guise then they'd be much more dangerous a threat in the long run compared to someone like Cob who pretty much reads like an open book. I also have to consider how the other Mystics would feel about me voting off Cobalion/Poipole. If I voted off someone's top ally then they might not think too highly of me. Cobalion's behavior in General Discussion seems... rather controversial, or at least I can see how it rubs people off the wrong way. It feels like Poipole has a lot more connections than Cobalion does -- the only thing I can sort of use to gauge this is that Solgaleo said he could namedrop him with Poipole in the Codenames forum, which makes me suspect he's getting along decently with Mystics. Whether or not I'd want to actually bring along someone with good connections is questionable -- sure, it can connect me better with some of the Mystics, but at the same time they could end up being a big threat later on.
Sorry if this sounds really rambley -- turns out I had a lot more to say about Cobalion than Poipole, haha. I just don't know what to make of this all, really. Poipole seems like the obvious choice to take along to merge, but I wonder if cutting out Cobalion means I'd lose powerful ally -- or potentially a powerful enemy. It's just really hard to read people's true intentions, and though my paranoia wants me to think the worst about everyone I feel like maybe I'd be stabbing myself in the foot down the road. But what's most important to me is that Uxie is alright with the vote, because I trust him the most out of everyone in new Valor, and if he wants to vote out Cobalion then I'd be willing to make it happen for him. I'd be fine with keeping either of them around, though I'm definitely uncertain about how much I can trust Cobalion.
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 16, 2019 17:54:55 GMT
So I'm talking to Uxie right now, and it seems like he's noticing the same types of things from Cobalion -- glad I'm not the only one thinking that. Apparently he also told Uxie that I was "super banking" on a Poipole vote and that I wanted them out b/c they performed badly in challenges, but that's what he said, not me. I think he told him I said that to try and sell him on the vote, as if telling him that was something we both agreed upon in a way, which tells me a lot about the type of bond between Uxie and Cobalion -- mostly that I'm closer to Cob than Uxie is.
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 16, 2019 21:31:19 GMT
So after talking with Uxie about my gripes with Cobalion and such we both agree that voting him out would be the best move for us. I don't really know what I'm going to tell Cobalion, or even Poipole for that moment. What I've been telling Cobalion is that me, him, and Uxie are going to vote out Poipole, and then Cobalion suggested we use Uxie as a decoy vote. But then when I talk to Poipole I'm going to have to tell him that Cobalion told me to tell him I'm voting Uxie, when in reality I told him to vote Poipole out. Ugh, I feel it's going to get really messy really fast.
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Post by Wallace on Feb 17, 2019 0:37:31 GMT
reminder to vote etc
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 17, 2019 1:17:28 GMT
Alright, so me and Uxie told Poipole that Cobalion was going to vote her out, but I'm a bit anxious about this TC. There's a decent chance Poipole runs to Cobalion and he insists that I told him to vote for Poipole, and suddenly neither of them trust me anymore. But since both of us told her I think she'd be a little more likely to believe us, and technically she should be mistrustful of Cobalion, since he was willing to flip on her fairly easily. I think I potentially fucked up big time this TC, because while Cobalion was willing to flip on her in a snap Poipole was much more hesistant to do the same, which means she could be talking to him right now about my plan to vote him out. Maybe I should've taken the easy route and just shun him or something like I did the with Buzzwole the first TC, lol.
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 17, 2019 1:39:27 GMT
Poipole hasn't messaged back and it's 20 minutes until deadline. I feel this has to go to rocks, fuuuuuuccck.
I should've just stuck to voting out Poipole. I had no way of anticipating that she'd be so opposed to voting him out, but I knew straight up front Cobalion was willing to vote out Poipole. Now the two are eloping and coming out to get me. So, like let's say to get to rocks and me & Cobalion are safe, since that's who's going to receive the votes. Poipole goes, and we're in the exact same position we would've been last night when I told Cobalion to vote out Poipole. Uxie goes, and suddenly my former tribemates end up likely hating me and the only real close ally I have is Regi. Jfc, my game went down the drainer too fucking fast.
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 17, 2019 1:43:31 GMT
Actually, would Cobalion be the type of Pokemon to risk rocks? Maybe he just hears out Poipole's word and think he's lying, so he votes for Poipole, Poipole vote for me most likely, and me/Uxie vote out Cobalion. In that case it'd actually be best to vote out Poipole since he'd likely hate us anyway, but like I have no idea what's going through Cobalion's mind. Maybe Poipole just doesn't want to talk right now and has already cast her vote for Cobalion -- that's a possible scenario too.
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 17, 2019 1:45:32 GMT
Shit, Uxie hasn't heard anything of substance from Poipole either -- this is really bad.
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Victini
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Post by Victini on Feb 17, 2019 1:47:32 GMT
The last I've heard from Cobalion is that he's good for the vote, and that was earlier this hour. I'd think he'd trust me enough to tell me any rumors that I spilled the beans of the Poipole vote like I did with him, so maybe that's a good sign? At least there might be something to fall back on.
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Victini
Player Nine
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Post by Victini on Feb 17, 2019 1:58:17 GMT
Too late to talk to anyone about anything now. Moment of truth, here it comes!
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